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hey guys

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how's it going i just wanted to say

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welcome back

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thank you for being here um this is

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going to be

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a great interview this is someone that

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i've followed for

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many many years someone's done a lot of

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great work in this subject

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um so yeah let's waste no time i'd like

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to introduce you

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to uh mr preston dennett preston how are

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you

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i'm doing great doing very well how are

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you i'm very good thank you

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and i must say thank you so much for

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coming to to talk with us today it

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really does mean a lot

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um like i'm just saying to the to

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everyone i've been following you for

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quite

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pleasure and an honor to speak to you so

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thank you

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hey much appreciated yeah no problem so

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let's just jump into it um

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i mean like i said i've been aware of

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you for a long time but just going back

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and looking at

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all the things you've done in this

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subject over the years it's

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mind-boggling

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so why don't we just start right back at

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the start and just what got you into

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this subject

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i can tell you it wasn't voluntary i was

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i was not looking for this

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kind of got dragged into it kicking and

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screaming wow

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i'm very skeptical i did not believe in

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ufos and did not want to hear about it

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but i heard this report on the news

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about a sighting over alaska

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this was boy decades ago

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no november 17 1986.

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wow and it's a pretty famous sighting

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now i mean it's

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very well known um very well documented

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there was

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it was a radar visual sighting multiple

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followed this captain of a japanese

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commercial airliner for

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many miles but the news report was very

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tongue-in-cheek

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very much they kind of just joked

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nervous joked about it laughed nervously

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and moved on

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but i thought this poor pilot you know

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what an idiot i mean i don't mean to be

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rude but that's what i thought

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but he's deluded he's obviously

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misperceiving

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maybe he's even lying but

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i thought well he's throwing his career

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away by going on tv and talking about

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this

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which turned out to be true by the way

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but at any rate it interested me that he

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do this and that this was on the

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mainstream news

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and i remembered my brother had seen a

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ufo so he claimed

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eight years earlier wow i was maybe 13

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years old or so

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and i just didn't want to hear it but

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now i'm like okay i

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i approached mcmark tell me about this

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ufo

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you think you saw and he described an

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incredible sighting

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i mean it was a very close-up setting of

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a metallic disc with

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colored lights on it a dome on top

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he had other witnesses with him he

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chased it in his car

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i'm like wow you know okay

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and i i mean i knew he wasn't lying

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and it was pretty clear he wasn't

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misperceiving i mean he was close to it

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wow and i'm like he says you can talk to

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my friends you know call greg

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call phil they were the other witnesses

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and i did

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and uh this kind of set the ball rolling

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found out that a lot of people i knew

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had had really dramatic encounters

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not just what state was that in then

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uh this was in california right yeah

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actually not far from where i live now

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okay i'm outside of la

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and i found out yeah my sister-in-law

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had had a sighting she had two witnesses

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with her

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i had a friend who had a sighting she

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friend who had missing time he had

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another witness

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uh so i'm like wow these people aren't

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alone i always assume

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someone sees a ufo some uneducated

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person alone out in the country who

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doesn't know what they're talking about

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but no that wasn't it at all i brought

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it up at work

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that was a bad idea

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because all these people i'd worked with

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for years you know these are people i

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loved and trusted

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and knew were intelligent people yeah

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and they had seen ufos too i mean one

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lady was chased

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home from the library by a ufo her her

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sister and her mom

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and they had missing time she had no

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idea what mystic time meant

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yeah and by this point i was

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starting to pick up books on this

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subject so yeah it hit home

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you know was in my family my friends my

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co-workers

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that got me to buy books on the subject

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i was going to disprove it

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and i couldn't i could not disprove it

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it was the opposite

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there was an enormous amount of evidence

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i was a relative latecomer to this field

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i mean it had been studied for decades

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i was hooked yeah once you're in it's

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hard to get out and where did you

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where did it go from there from when you

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were doing it for yourself and asking

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friends and colleagues

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what where was the first sort of initial

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jump in to the point where you were you

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let's say a fully fledged researcher

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that was you know

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people were listening to you and looking

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at looking to speak to you

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was there a particular time that sort of

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that happened yeah i would say it was

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about a year and

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i was kind of just floating around like

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trying to wrap my head around all this

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buying books on it i'd started to

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you know i found ufo organizations i

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started started joining them

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attending ufo meetings but i read this

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allen hynek who if you know

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anything about ufos you know who jaylen

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heineck is of course

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i'm the project blue book astronomer

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which is you know blue books of the air

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force ufo study project

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and i heard a quote from him that kind

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of blew my mind he said one in 40 people

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have had an onboard ufo encounter i

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thought no

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no there's no way that's way too many

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you're out of your mind

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i know 40 people that would mean i know

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someone who's been abducted

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and that's what really got me to ask

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everybody i knew

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right and uh around that time i had the

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opportunity to interview

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a lieutenant colonel because my

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father was in the movie business and was

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working on a science fiction

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tv series called starman which was based

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who was a lieutenant colonel who worked

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the hallway from project blue book

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so that was my first interview i was

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gosh i was wasn't that old i'm

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early 20s wow let's see

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1986 that make me 21 years old when all

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kind of came into my life and yeah he

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interview wow starting off at a high

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yeah yeah but then i started

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interviewing everybody i became a field

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investigator

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from mufon took their test mufon's the

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mutual ufo network

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yeah it was a hard test like it's a

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take-home test you know i'm like oh

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take home while that's going to be a

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i did breeze through that but there was

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these sort of things so it was

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a good education you know a good way to

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sorry i was just going to say do you

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know if that test is still around or

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have they

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they altered it since then oh no you can

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still become a field investigator but

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now you have to take classes it's a

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little bit more involved

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right but absolutely you know i was very

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moving into this subject i was very

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skeptical i mean i know how

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far away the stars are and that's what

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kind of said no made me think no there's

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an alien race could get to earth the

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far too far away but this was all based

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uh so ironically finding out ufos were

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real made me very skeptical

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of all things i had to completely

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readjust my world view

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that's such a big thing to do as well

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especially when you're sort of in your

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20s and you always

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already feel that you think you know how

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the world kind of works and

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to be able to have to readjust every

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belief system is is

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is shocking yeah yeah i was not happy i

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can tell you i was

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really not happy about it so after you

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got into move on on that and you were

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were you looking at local cases were you

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like what was the kind of next step for

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yeah it really just started out with

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family friends

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and co-workers and i'm like wow you know

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and that gave me 50 cases to work with

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oh and so i started you know doing

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formal interviews

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and visiting the sites where these cases

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had occurred

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and uh that built up a network um so i

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soon had you know friends of friends

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and friends of co-workers and and people

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just started coming at me from all

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directions

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because there wasn't a lot of places to

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go to

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back in the late this field really

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exploded

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right when i got into it there was a

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friend so i kind of wrote a wave of

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popularity this is when bud hopkins book

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intruders came out uh this is when

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whitley strieber's book communion

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became a bestseller uh the billy meyer

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in switzerland became popularized around

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yeah so a lot of people were looking for

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answers

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and kind of rode that wave

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into this field and uh

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yeah i started definitely really

290
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buckling down i started writing articles

291
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at some point

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i think my first article was for the

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local newspaper right

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and he loved it put it on the cover i'm

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like wow

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and that's so there was no skeptic

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skepticism from the local paper or

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anything like that

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they actually put it on the front cover

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that's i find that quite surprising to

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be honest

302
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yeah i can tell you i was surprised but

303
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you know i i did my research i recorded

304
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my interviews i had the witnesses

305
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you know this was this was in the

306
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town where i grew up to panga canyon

307
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right and i'd found a bunch of cases

308
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there

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so i sent it off to the local newspaper

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thinking you know this is an interesting

311
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article

312
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and they loved it and that's what kind

313
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of really got me writing articles

314
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and my first really huge huge case that

315
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came at me was

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from uh the editor of the newspaper

317
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there had been a bunch of people calling

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the police one evening this was june 14

319
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1992. and a bunch of people called the

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police a bunch of people called the

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newspaper

322
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on the this evening you know ufos were

323
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seen in large numbers

324
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over the canyon this is in southern

325
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california

326
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yeah and uh he's like please investigate

327
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it i'm like okay i will

328
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and yeah that that was still one of the

329
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biggest cases i've ever worked on

330
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and that's what really got me writing

331
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articles for

332
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magazines and things and i have to tell

333
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you i i put out a lot of books

334
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yeah up to this point but i was in this

335
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field for

336
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10 years researching before i wrote my

337
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first book

338
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wow so i i did my homework for sure

339
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absolutely i mean i went through how

340
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many books have you written now because

341
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it's

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right now

343
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28 you know it might be 29 i'm starting

344
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to lose count

345
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that's incredible yeah and one of the

346
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books was specifically focusing on the

347
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topanga canyon area as well so i mean

348
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to be able to write a whole book on just

349
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one small area of

350
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you know locally to you that shows how

351
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much activity must have been going on

352
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yeah yeah i sent that book out to 40

353
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different publishers by the way

354
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40 40 4-0 before i found a publisher who

355
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loved it and they turned out to be one

356
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of my most successful books

357
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i mean it did really well that's

358
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brilliant

359
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so back then you know ufos were not as

360
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popular as they are now

361
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not at all not as accepted no not

362
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not at all so your first book you're

363
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saying was probably around what 96

364
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something like that

365
00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:07,360
that's right right i had put you know i

366
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started writing a few books one was

367
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about my

368
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the sightings and encounters of family

369
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friends and co-workers

370
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that was the first one i actually wrote

371
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uh but the first book i got published

372
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was ufo healings right and because i'd

373
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run

374
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incredible encounters

375
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i call her wendy that's not her real

376
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name but she described this

377
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these amazing experiences she'd had a

378
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lot of them

379
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and then told me that she had actually

380
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been healed by the ets

381
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and that really caught my interest

382
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because i knew of a few cases

383
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already i mean jacques valet famous

384
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french researcher had a case

385
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of a guy in france who was cured of an

386
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axe wound on his foot

387
00:13:54,629 --> 00:13:53,760
wow and uh partial paralysis i knew

388
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another case

389
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above peruvian's customs official who

390
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was cured of

391
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near-sightedness after being struck by a

392
00:14:05,269 --> 00:14:01,519
beam of light

393
00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:05,279
and rheumatism i knew of a case in

394
00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:08,880
texas here in the usa where a police

395
00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:10,560
officer was cured of a flesh wound on

396
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his finger

397
00:14:15,430 --> 00:14:13,839
and actually a baby alligator had bit

398
00:14:17,269 --> 00:14:15,440
his finger

399
00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:17,279
oh and he was struck by a beam of

400
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lightning and healed it

401
00:14:22,949 --> 00:14:21,440
so and then here's this lady wendy

402
00:14:25,750 --> 00:14:22,959
describing how she had been

403
00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:25,760
taken by the ets she had been previously

404
00:14:30,790 --> 00:14:27,360
diagnosed with a

405
00:14:33,590 --> 00:14:30,800
cyst in her fallopian tubes

406
00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:33,600
and it was mrid x-rayed i'm fully

407
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:35,279
documented

408
00:14:40,069 --> 00:14:38,639
and the night before she was going to

409
00:14:42,790 --> 00:14:40,079
have an operation

410
00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:42,800
to have it removed she had an encounter

411
00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:44,000
went to the doctor the next

412
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,880
day and they're like well this is really

413
00:14:50,230 --> 00:14:47,680
strange

414
00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:50,240
you know they did pre imaging for before

415
00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:51,120
they

416
00:14:59,590 --> 00:14:54,480
her

417
00:15:02,310 --> 00:14:59,600
the doctor

418
00:15:03,030 --> 00:15:02,320
and she denied it i said well no no we

419
00:15:06,069 --> 00:15:03,040
know you did

420
00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:06,079
because your cyst is gone and there's

421
00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:08,480
fluid here in your fallopian tube

422
00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:11,120
this fluid is only present after someone

423
00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:12,079
has had surgery

424
00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:13,839
we know you had surgery and there are

425
00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:16,240
laser scars here on your abdomen

426
00:15:20,389 --> 00:15:19,120
what happened and she played dumb she

427
00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:20,399
knew what happened

428
00:15:24,069 --> 00:15:21,920
i'm like why didn't you tell them she

429
00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:24,079
said are you kidding me

430
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,839
she says i don't like those white coats

431
00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:28,320
that they put you on that tire

432
00:15:31,509 --> 00:15:29,680
i do know people who have been put in

433
00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:31,519
mental institutions by the way

434
00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:34,320
right going public saying that they've

435
00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:35,600
seen aliens

436
00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:37,759
their family put them in a mental

437
00:15:42,310 --> 00:15:38,880
institution

438
00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:42,320
wow so she was not about to talk

439
00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,360
and yeah the doctors were upset they

440
00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:47,279
could not understand it

441
00:15:51,269 --> 00:15:49,920
um because she completely denied she

442
00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:51,279
hadn't gone to the doctor i mean she

443
00:15:56,150 --> 00:15:53,440
wasn't lying

444
00:15:57,430 --> 00:15:56,160
uh so that was what's prompted me to

445
00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:57,440
write my first book

446
00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:58,959
i'm like let's look into the other

447
00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:01,120
healing cases is this

448
00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:04,160
a thing because i knew of another case

449
00:16:06,870 --> 00:16:04,560
in

450
00:16:08,310 --> 00:16:06,880
south america where a little girl was

451
00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:08,320
healed of cancer

452
00:16:11,430 --> 00:16:10,320
i thought this would make a good article

453
00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:11,440
and i found

454
00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,040
30 cases and then i found 40.

455
00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:17,600
i'm like let's dig in and i found over

456
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:18,399
100.

457
00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:19,920
i mean they must be really difficult to

458
00:16:23,590 --> 00:16:21,839
research because once you've heard the

459
00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:23,600
testimony and

460
00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:26,240
i suppose you get the medical records

461
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:27,600
and stuff that kind of back up the

462
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:29,600
testimony but

463
00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:31,600
i mean i've not really touched on that

464
00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:32,720
area of the subject much

465
00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,639
myself but it really is fascinating that

466
00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:38,959
how do you disprove anything like that i

467
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:40,720
mean did you find there was much

468
00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:42,959
pushback within the ufo community

469
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:45,360
who may have been looking at the we want

470
00:16:48,470 --> 00:16:46,800
to look at craft in the sky we don't

471
00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:48,480
want to hear about these kind of

472
00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:51,199
more maybe fringe especially at the time

473
00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:53,199
sort of aspects of the phenomena

474
00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:55,759
oh yeah yeah there absolutely was i put

475
00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:57,839
out this was the first book published on

476
00:17:01,749 --> 00:17:00,560
this subject you know this aspect of

477
00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,759
ufos

478
00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:03,199
and at the time there was a lot of

479
00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:04,799
accounts of grays

480
00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:08,160
you know gray abductions and uh

481
00:17:11,590 --> 00:17:09,600
which you know i got involved in this

482
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:11,600
field i'm like oh my god

483
00:17:15,270 --> 00:17:12,959
people are getting abducted by grey

484
00:17:17,110 --> 00:17:15,280
aliens they're being pulled on

485
00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:17,120
you know kidnapped against their will

486
00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:19,520
they're being experimented on this is

487
00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:22,799
bad news for humanity and that was

488
00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:24,640
getting a lot of publicity and there was

489
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:25,520
a real

490
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:29,440
strong fear slant on this subject

491
00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:32,640
and uh then i've kind of stumbled along

492
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,080
these cases which

493
00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:37,200
often were pushed to the fringe got

494
00:17:42,390 --> 00:17:40,240
very little mention uh in

495
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,400
i mean finding information on this was

496
00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:43,919
not easy

497
00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:46,240
because people were not looking at but

498
00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:48,400
the more i looked i'm like well gosh

499
00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:51,679
every major researcher has these cases

500
00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:54,720
pretty much everyone john john mack

501
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:57,919
bud hopkins david jacobs barbara lammy

502
00:18:02,710 --> 00:17:59,039
von smith

503
00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:02,720
i'm i mean edith fiore they all had them

504
00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:04,720
i'm like why isn't anyone talking about

505
00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:05,919
this yeah

506
00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:07,760
and it was because you know oh et's are

507
00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:09,520
friendly and they heal people

508
00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:12,080
nobody wanted to hear that or couldn't

509
00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:13,760
even believe it

510
00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:15,200
but i'm like well this is medical

511
00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:16,960
evidence you know this is good

512
00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:19,919
solid evidence you can actually get your

513
00:18:25,110 --> 00:18:21,440
hands on in touch

514
00:18:25,669 --> 00:18:25,120
yeah so that's what really attracted me

515
00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:25,679
to it

516
00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:28,799
and yeah so having those two angles for

517
00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:30,880
for so many years it was the fear and

518
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:31,280
people

519
00:18:35,029 --> 00:18:33,120
were getting abducted like kidnapped

520
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:35,039
against their will and then you started

521
00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:36,640
hearing about all these really positive

522
00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:39,120
things healing aspects

523
00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,840
do you think they are all coming from

524
00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:43,520
one race do you think there are multiple

525
00:18:46,789 --> 00:18:45,200
races like we have a good and a bad in

526
00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:46,799
pretty much everything in this universe

527
00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:48,240
has a positive and a negative do you

528
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:49,240
think we have that with the

529
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:51,039
extraterrestrials

530
00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:53,440
yeah yeah i think to a certain extent

531
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:54,240
and looking

532
00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:56,960
you know being very objective about this

533
00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:57,840
because i had to

534
00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:00,160
really step back and like because we all

535
00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:02,320
have our belief systems

536
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,080
i had the advantage of having my belief

537
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:06,720
systems completely shattered

538
00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:10,480
uh so i was like sort of you know

539
00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:13,280
just floundering trying to build a

540
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:14,320
belief system

541
00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:17,120
yeah and didn't really have one so i

542
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:19,280
came into this with a complete

543
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,640
objective skeptical viewpoint

544
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:24,640
like let's just look at this for what it

545
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:27,120
is let's look at the facts

546
00:19:32,150 --> 00:19:30,160
and what i found was a bell curve

547
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:32,160
of behavior that falls under the same

548
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:33,840
umbrella as human behavior

549
00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:36,320
yeah but is honestly slanted towards the

550
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:37,200
positive

551
00:19:43,430 --> 00:19:40,480
because humans are vicious brutal beings

552
00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:43,440
yes they lie cheat steal murder and

553
00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:44,240
worse

554
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:45,919
yeah and i suppose you think if this is

555
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:48,240
an advanced civilization that they've

556
00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:51,120
ironed out all that that nonsense that

557
00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:53,039
we do as a human race so

558
00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,799
maybe there's a few lingering aspects of

559
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,320
the negative side of things but i mean

560
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,400
that's how i kind of look at that

561
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:00,720
but but it's still there i think because

562
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:02,480
you know we still hear of abductions

563
00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:05,200
even in more recent times so the cases

564
00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:06,720
are very negative

565
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:09,039
yeah they are people have terrifying

566
00:20:12,789 --> 00:20:09,760
painful

567
00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:12,799
encounters but it's rare compared to

568
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:14,880
what i would say that

569
00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,720
i mean there's a whole definitely a bell

570
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:18,559
curve yeah for sure

571
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:21,520
uh but most people the worst i hear let

572
00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:22,880
me put it this way is the

573
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:25,679
physical examination yeah um which is

574
00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:27,039
unpleasant sometimes

575
00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,039
especially if it's being done by people

576
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,120
you don't recognize

577
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:33,120
who look a little different and we're

578
00:20:36,630 --> 00:20:34,159
taught to fear

579
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:36,640
people that are different that's kind of

580
00:20:40,789 --> 00:20:37,679
a big thing in

581
00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,149
but you know that's it in terms of like

582
00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:46,400
people are not being tortured they're

583
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:49,360
not being um you know the ets are not

584
00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,720
sadists

585
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,640
you know they're not trying to hurt or

586
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:54,320
scare people

587
00:20:58,630 --> 00:20:57,280
uh that is not their agenda at all in

588
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:58,640
fact

589
00:21:01,909 --> 00:21:00,080
they're healing people it's what they're

590
00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,919
actually doing during these physical

591
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:03,520
examinations

592
00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:05,520
and what i found it's like going to the

593
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:07,919
doctor people don't like it

594
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,919
you know talk talk to a nurse and they

595
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,760
will tell you how patients will kick

596
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:13,840
and scream and call them all kinds of

597
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:15,200
names

598
00:21:21,029 --> 00:21:18,640
um and this is sort of what we see

599
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,039
at the worst aspect of it but if you

600
00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:23,039
don't have a strong fear response

601
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:24,720
you're treated much differently your

602
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:26,159
memory isn't wiped

603
00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,919
you know you're not paralyzed you're

604
00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:29,440
given freedom of movement you're given a

605
00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:30,640
lot of information

606
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:32,159
you're taken to the engine room the

607
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:35,360
control room you are given warnings

608
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,120
spiritual information information

609
00:21:43,590 --> 00:21:39,760
there's a very strong

610
00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,600
pronounced uh spiritual aspect to these

611
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:45,440
onboard ufo connors that doesn't get a

612
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,720
lot of attention

613
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:48,880
no not at all not near enough and i mean

614
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:50,159
i think a lot of people are

615
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:51,919
scared to touch on it because it really

616
00:21:56,070 --> 00:21:54,640
may be seen as just speculation but

617
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,080
you know i think it's still good to talk

618
00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:58,640
about it even if

619
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:01,760
you know people think it may be nonsense

620
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:03,919
i think until we know what this is

621
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:04,799
exactly

622
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:06,720
proven we have to leave everything on

623
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:09,039
the table and consider all aspects so

624
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:11,200
you know i completely see that point of

625
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,400
view yeah

626
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,159
when people got you know when this field

627
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:16,240
sort of broke out towards the mainstream

628
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:17,360
and it's

629
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,760
it wasn't in mainstream so there was a

630
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,679
real strong aspect to just prove

631
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,039
prove that it's real prove that it's

632
00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:25,440
real and this kept people away from

633
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:27,440
spiritual aspects of it because there

634
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:28,880
was all very

635
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:31,840
nuts and bolts let's prove this is real

636
00:22:33,909 --> 00:22:32,159
but

637
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:33,919
um the proof is there it's in the public

638
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:37,039
arena look at the landing trace cases

639
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:39,679
look at the medical evidence cases look

640
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,159
at the

641
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,559
electromagnetic effect cases the radar

642
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:43,919
visual cases

643
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:47,200
the implant removal cases the proof

644
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,559
is there absolutely yeah

645
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:52,400
that's one aspect i wanted to touch on

646
00:22:56,950 --> 00:22:54,799
is a lot of cases involving children who

647
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,960
have no reason to lie maybe not as much

648
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:58,240
as adults anyway but

649
00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,320
specifically the schoolyard encounters

650
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,640
which one of my favorite cases the ariel

651
00:23:07,430 --> 00:23:04,080
school case in

652
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:07,440
rural zimbabwe we've got the the westall

653
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,919
school in

654
00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,840
australia but i mean i know you've

655
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:11,600
written a book on school encounters so

656
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:13,120
are there other cases that are

657
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:16,159
just as or if not more prominent in in

658
00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:17,760
what happened that you'd be able to talk

659
00:23:21,909 --> 00:23:19,120
to us about

660
00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:21,919
yeah yeah this shocked me having been in

661
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:24,080
this field for decades i had no idea

662
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:24,559
that

663
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:27,120
schoolyard ufo connors was the thing i

664
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:29,120
mean i knew about the aerial encounter

665
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:31,120
i think it's the ultimate case of this

666
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,880
kind where ufo landed next to the

667
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:33,919
playground

668
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:37,919
beings got out most of the people

669
00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,919
the kids on the playground saw this no

670
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,279
teachers did

671
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:43,039
but this was an amazing encounter and i

672
00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:45,200
thought wow you know i have a case like

673
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:46,080
this myself

674
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:47,919
where i interviewed a kid who was

675
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:50,159
actually taken from the playground here

676
00:23:53,430 --> 00:23:51,279
in california

677
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:53,440
wow and i started thinking about it i'm

678
00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:54,320
like gosh

679
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:56,480
isn't there another case in wales like

680
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,840
broadhaven wales

681
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,760
yeah the broad you know and i'm like

682
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:01,679
yeah that's that was at an elementary

683
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,559
school

684
00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:04,559
ufo landed next to the playground beings

685
00:24:09,190 --> 00:24:06,000
got out

686
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:09,200
and i thought gosh i started looking

687
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:12,400
another famous case popped up um opalaca

688
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,360
florida

689
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:16,000
crestview elementary school oh hello

690
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,039
that one

691
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:20,000
yeah ufo landed next to the school 200

692
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:21,039
kids saw it

693
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:24,320
wow and then i started digging deeper

694
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:26,559
i'm like there's a very very well known

695
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:28,320
case in australia

696
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:32,159
westall high school in melbourne

697
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:35,200
again two to three hundred kids saw us

698
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:36,880
as well as teachers

699
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:39,520
uh which was true for the crestview case

700
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:40,559
wow uh

701
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:43,360
and like landed next to the school like

702
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,559
why are they always doing they're

703
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:45,600
landing next to the school

704
00:24:51,669 --> 00:24:48,640
in a grove of trees over and over again

705
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:51,679
so i'm like let's look deeper and

706
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:53,840
i started you know i've got a lot of

707
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,600
books i subscribed to the ufo news

708
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:57,520
clipping service

709
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:59,039
i started digging through the files of

710
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:00,960
mufon

711
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:03,200
new fork national ufo reporting center

712
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:04,480
apro

713
00:25:09,029 --> 00:25:07,120
now there's a lot of information out

714
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,039
there

715
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:12,000
and i got a real shock this is

716
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:13,600
absolutely a thing

717
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:17,039
um ufos are hovering over well not only

718
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,080
hovering landing

719
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:20,960
i found over a hundred cases i thought

720
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:23,120
the earliest case i found was like 1850

721
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,200
at burke college in tennessee

722
00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:28,320
wow but nothing really until

723
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:32,400
1950 but from 1950 onwards

724
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:35,679
every year a school

725
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:38,240
or two or more i think there's probably

726
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:39,120
a lot more

727
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:42,000
honestly was being visited these are not

728
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,600
normal encounters

729
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:45,600
they come down they target the schools

730
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,120
specifically

731
00:25:51,269 --> 00:25:50,000
and i say that because these objects

732
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,279
will appear on the horizon

733
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,840
perhaps or from up above and come

734
00:25:58,149 --> 00:25:55,360
swooping down

735
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:58,159
and stop over the school or circle

736
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:59,360
around it

737
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:02,080
at low levels these are low leveled

738
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:02,720
daytime

739
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,960
sightings and your average sighting is

740
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:05,919
very brief

741
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:09,360
not yet these these are long lasting

742
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:11,600
i mean five minutes is a long time to

743
00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:12,559
see a ufo

744
00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:14,640
very long and that's on the short end

745
00:26:18,789 --> 00:26:15,679
here these

746
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:18,799
are more often 15 minutes an hour

747
00:26:23,590 --> 00:26:21,679
two hours or over a period of days in

748
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:23,600
several cases

749
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:25,679
and they're landing in 30 percent of

750
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:26,720
these cases

751
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:28,640
landings or humanoids are seen do you

752
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,919
have any theories as to

753
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,760
why do you think it's specifically the

754
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:33,039
children and maybe they're sending a

755
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,480
message or

756
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,080
getting in their heads at an early age i

757
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,159
mean it's it's crazy

758
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:40,640
yeah i certainly thought about this um

759
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,840
and what i found is some very

760
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:42,960
interesting patterns

761
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,960
uh 50 of these cases

762
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:49,200
uh pretty much most of them are

763
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,880
elementary schools

764
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:52,880
right i mean there's a very famous

765
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,080
college case hillsdale college

766
00:26:59,669 --> 00:26:58,400
which really broke this field wide open

767
00:27:03,669 --> 00:26:59,679
by the air force

768
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:03,679
this is what hinak heineck

769
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:05,440
decided he was going to defect from

770
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,039
project blue book

771
00:27:10,070 --> 00:27:09,039
uh he called it swamp gas there was a

772
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,080
huge kickback

773
00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:12,559
and it was the low point of his career

774
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:13,360
yes this

775
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:14,720
ended up causing a congressional

776
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:17,120
investigation this sighting at hillsdale

777
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,840
college

778
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,679
where it landed by the way people don't

779
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:21,679
realize the ufo landed in front of this

780
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:27,269
and yeah i do have a theory i think what

781
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:30,960
is happening here is et's are conducting

782
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:34,000
what amounts to a publicity campaign

783
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:35,760
they are showing themselves off

784
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,039
intentionally

785
00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:39,840
we can pretty much easily conclude this

786
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:41,840
judged on their behavior

787
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:45,200
it's very overt it's very brazen yeah

788
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:48,399
it's very much in your face like we are

789
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:49,120
here

790
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:54,320
why would they do that you know that's

791
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,760
one thing to say okay they're

792
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:58,000
showing themselves in an effort to

793
00:28:02,630 --> 00:27:59,440
announce their presence but why are they

794
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:02,640
announcing their presence and i think

795
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:06,080
it's to cause a sort of belief

796
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:09,760
in ufos to let people know they're here

797
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:13,520
for their other agenda which

798
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:16,240
is this is pure speculation here sure

799
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:17,840
and i hate to speculate in this field

800
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:18,159
but

801
00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:19,919
you know you can't help it you cannot

802
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,600
help

803
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:24,000
but i i'd like to stick to the facts

804
00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:24,799
yeah

805
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,279
but i'm pretty sure that this is what

806
00:28:30,549 --> 00:28:29,200
they're doing it's a publicity campaign

807
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,559
because

808
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:32,480
many ufo researchers have talked about

809
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,720
how ufos are putting on displays

810
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,600
and these are clear displays and i think

811
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:39,600
eventually what they want to do is open

812
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:40,720
official contact

813
00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:42,840
i think that's what this is it's

814
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:44,480
preparation

815
00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:47,679
it's and it's been effective it's a very

816
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:51,520
clever way to sort of introduce

817
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:54,799
the i the presence of ufos without

818
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:56,559
you know causing front-page newspaper

819
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,360
headlines because you know kids

820
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:01,520
they're seen you know seen and not heard

821
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,399
sort of

822
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:04,640
so maybe it's i mean again throwing out

823
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:06,320
theory and speculation maybe they're

824
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:09,520
approaching the kids put it in their

825
00:29:14,950 --> 00:29:12,720
younger more malleable subconscious

826
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:14,960
for something that may occur 20 30 years

827
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,960
down the line when those kids are adults

828
00:29:19,750 --> 00:29:18,799
maybe that's when the the reveal will

829
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,760
happen

830
00:29:23,669 --> 00:29:22,080
precisely yeah that makes i mean it does

831
00:29:26,149 --> 00:29:23,679
make sense it really does

832
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:26,159
i think that's exactly it because kids

833
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:27,600
are so impressionable

834
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:29,760
yeah they're none you know they don't

835
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:31,120
discriminate

836
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:32,880
they don't fear something just because

837
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:35,039
it's different and in most of these

838
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:36,240
cases

839
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:38,640
and these are elementary kids yeah they

840
00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:39,360
have not

841
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:43,200
heard of ufos it's our primary

842
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,120
this is in primary school you know you

843
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:47,360
haven't been exposed to these kind of

844
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:50,640
ideas and uh this is something they

845
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,640
remember for the rest of their lives

846
00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:54,799
that turns up in almost every case like

847
00:29:59,110 --> 00:29:56,880
i think about it every day

848
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:59,120
there's been no evidence of any hoaxes

849
00:30:01,830 --> 00:30:00,240
in these

850
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:01,840
true and they've all stuck to their

851
00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,720
story have you spoken to many of them

852
00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:06,399
many of the kids from these cases in

853
00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,760
more recent years have you

854
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:09,679
tracked any down in their older age and

855
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:10,880
seen how

856
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,679
oh yeah yeah yeah any any examples that

857
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:14,960
you can give us just because i mean i

858
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:15,520
think we've

859
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,559
we've seen from the aerial school um

860
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:21,279
kids from 94 i think in james fox is the

861
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,480
phenomenon he

862
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,840
he speaks to some of them but it'd be

863
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,360
interesting to see some of these more

864
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:27,120
more lesser known cases and

865
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,320
if it all correlates as well yeah

866
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:32,640
one i i would say that some of them have

867
00:30:36,950 --> 00:30:34,880
reunions

868
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:36,960
because i'm gonna happen with the

869
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,880
broadhaven school incident that happened

870
00:30:44,230 --> 00:30:40,640
at the rosie ball

871
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:44,240
school which i think is also in wales uh

872
00:30:49,350 --> 00:30:47,360
but yeah this is quite common um

873
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:49,360
people are very deeply impressed that's

874
00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:50,960
another pattern

875
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:53,200
some become ufo researchers that

876
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,240
happened to malcolm robinson of scotland

877
00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:58,399
he had a playground sighting and ended

878
00:31:01,029 --> 00:31:00,399
up becoming you know one of scotland's

879
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,039
major

880
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:03,120
ufo researchers i mean he wrote ufos

881
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:04,480
over scotland

882
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:08,159
one and two and some become

883
00:31:11,990 --> 00:31:10,399
you know quantum physicists or

884
00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:12,000
astronomers

885
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:15,039
or very ufo activists

886
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:18,320
you know they join uf organizations uh

887
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,200
so this absolutely does affect people

888
00:31:24,870 --> 00:31:23,120
for the rest of their lives

889
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,880
yeah i mean that's the thing that they

890
00:31:28,630 --> 00:31:26,640
become truth seekers to

891
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,640
to look for the answers that they need

892
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:30,320
from what they saw i can imagine

893
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,039
so that makes that makes sense to me now

894
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:35,120
preston one thing that really has been

895
00:31:39,669 --> 00:31:36,720
captivating me for the last couple of

896
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,679
years is underwater unidentified

897
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:40,960
submersible objects

898
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:43,760
usos and specifically kind of the west

899
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:45,760
coast the catalina island and

900
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,039
you know off the northern coast of

901
00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:49,600
mexico and again you've written a book

902
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:50,399
on

903
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:53,679
like undersea bases can you know um

904
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,960
with over 70 plus uso cases

905
00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:58,399
when did that really start for you is

906
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:59,840
that something that goes back into the

907
00:32:03,190 --> 00:32:01,519
sort of 90s and that or is that more

908
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:03,200
recent like when did that really come

909
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,120
about for you

910
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:07,440
it crept on me slowly i will say that

911
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:08,240
from the

912
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:10,720
very beginning i started giving cases

913
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:11,279
wow

914
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:14,159
um because i am right next to the coast

915
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:14,720
here

916
00:32:19,029 --> 00:32:17,039
yeah and people started saying oh yeah

917
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:19,039
you know i saw this object on the water

918
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:21,039
i remember i think one of my first cases

919
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:22,480
was this therapist

920
00:32:26,389 --> 00:32:24,320
who was driving along the pacific coast

921
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:26,399
highway which runs along

922
00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:29,440
the santa catalina channel yeah

923
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,480
and she described seeing this light

924
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,640
floating on the water and it didn't look

925
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,159
like a boat and she turned to the guy

926
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:38,240
who was driving she says look at that

927
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:40,880
and as soon as he turns and looks at it

928
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,480
it goes straight up

929
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:44,640
wow takes off in a way that you know

930
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:45,919
nothing can do

931
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:48,159
yeah that was my first case started

932
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:49,440
getting more after that

933
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,320
it started stacking up and i wrote a

934
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:54,240
book called ufos over california

935
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:55,840
and i thought well i've got like 30

936
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:57,919
cases let's do a chapter on this

937
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,760
ocean going ufos and so that's how it

938
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:03,440
started

939
00:33:09,669 --> 00:33:06,799
and a tv producer actually

940
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:09,679
picked up the book and that's how i got

941
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:10,960
onto the history channel with

942
00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,480
their show deep sea ufos which got

943
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:16,320
record ratings it beat up it was their

944
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,440
best show

945
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,880
you know ice road truckers

946
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:22,640
and uh they're like come back for a

947
00:33:26,549 --> 00:33:24,480
second show i'm like of course

948
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,559
you know and uh so that brought in a

949
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,159
flood of cases

950
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:30,480
which led to another show and more

951
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:32,080
research started getting asked to speak

952
00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:32,720
on it

953
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:35,519
i wrote an article for fate magazine

954
00:33:38,950 --> 00:33:36,799
they put it on the cover

955
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:38,960
that article went viral actually was

956
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,360
posted all over the internet

957
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,000
and so i found myself being a uso

958
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,399
researcher

959
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,279
and yeah focusing on the santa catalina

960
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,960
channel

961
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:53,440
this is very close to the now famous tic

962
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:54,320
tac incident

963
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:56,799
absolutely which is on the south south

964
00:33:59,750 --> 00:33:57,360
end of it

965
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:59,760
all but definitely as the ufo flies i

966
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:00,640
mean

967
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:04,320
or the uso um

968
00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:07,679
it's not far away and this this area of

969
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:08,879
water

970
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:11,119
um stretching on the north end from

971
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,159
santa barbara

972
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,800
south all the way down to really mexico

973
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:15,599
but

974
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:18,480
let's say san clemente yeah uh it's a

975
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:18,960
mile

976
00:34:26,629 --> 00:34:24,720
uso accounts in the world

977
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,639
i'm not going to say that for sure

978
00:34:29,190 --> 00:34:27,760
because i

979
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,200
uh but because there are other areas

980
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:31,440
which are pretty active yeah

981
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:34,960
but i've got 150 cases

982
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,919
and that's a lot and i'm like what is

983
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,599
going on here because it's a pretty

984
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,040
sharply defined area

985
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:43,760
case is stretching back to the 1920s all

986
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:44,320
the way

987
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,159
present day i mean 2021 we've got cases

988
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:51,119
really oh yeah are these cases that

989
00:34:54,230 --> 00:34:52,000
you've

990
00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:54,240
researched and the public can read about

991
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,760
or is this still stuff you're working on

992
00:35:01,270 --> 00:34:57,920
behind the scenes

993
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:01,280
um i hear you know i'm i'm

994
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:03,200
all over the place these days i've got a

995
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:04,320
lot of my play

996
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:07,680
uh but yeah what happened was uh

997
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:10,720
josh gates expedition x television

998
00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:11,280
program

999
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:14,880
called right yeah and uh so

1000
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,359
they were doing research into this area

1001
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:18,880
and they actually caught it

1002
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,160
on film and uh

1003
00:35:27,270 --> 00:35:25,200
an object coming up out of the water and

1004
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:27,280
i i told them like this is the area to

1005
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:28,320
go to

1006
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:32,160
island it's the best lookout place this

1007
00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,280
is where i've got a

1008
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:35,520
huge cluster of cases if you want to see

1009
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,320
one

1010
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:39,119
i would go there and i would look

1011
00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:40,560
towards the mainland

1012
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:43,680
and that's what they did and it worked

1013
00:35:49,030 --> 00:35:46,640
and i know another organization uapx is

1014
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:49,040
definitely researching this area

1015
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,240
i'm capturing some amazing stuff oh well

1016
00:35:54,390 --> 00:35:53,680
that's interesting i'm speaking to those

1017
00:35:57,910 --> 00:35:54,400
guys in

1018
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:57,920
next week in fact so yeah very excited

1019
00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:59,920
awesome yeah

1020
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,680
i'm telling you i think there's a base

1021
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:03,599
there really well

1022
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,079
i really do because i'm you know i had a

1023
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:08,240
number of experiencers telling me this

1024
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:10,160
like why would you say that they're like

1025
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:12,400
i just intuitively feel it one guy's

1026
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:13,119
like well i was

1027
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:16,400
in it he was abducted from catalina

1028
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:16,960
island

1029
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:20,000
and wasn't taken inside a ufo he was

1030
00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:20,720
taken to an

1031
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:23,760
underground place with rock walls and it

1032
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:25,280
was big

1033
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:28,480
and that's not unique i have well now

1034
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,800
four other cases like that are we

1035
00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:32,880
talking about like a different base

1036
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:34,640
because we we hear a lot of talk about

1037
00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:36,240
the malibu base

1038
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:37,839
is that different to what you're saying

1039
00:36:44,310 --> 00:36:40,240
about possible catalina base is it

1040
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,320
you know is that different i'm not sure

1041
00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:46,560
to be honest because what i did was i

1042
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,920
started

1043
00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:50,160
my first step was to really sort of mark

1044
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:52,240
these all on the map

1045
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:53,760
and uh i'm like wow they're all

1046
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:56,240
clustered here in the santa catalina

1047
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,119
channel

1048
00:37:01,990 --> 00:36:59,040
it's very deep there by the way average

1049
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:02,000
depth about two to three thousand feet

1050
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:05,760
wow but has canyons in there

1051
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:08,000
up to five thousand feet deep you know a

1052
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,599
mile deep

1053
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:11,359
i talked to navy guys i talked to a

1054
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,040
submarine navigator

1055
00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:15,440
you know some really good witnesses he

1056
00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:17,680
had an encounter there

1057
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:20,880
and uh i thought hmm

1058
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,160
you know there seem to be really

1059
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:24,880
clustered off the coast of malibu here

1060
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:26,720
if there's a base it's probably right

1061
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:28,240
around here

1062
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:31,680
and it was shortly after i had you know

1063
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:35,280
put this out that uh these google images

1064
00:37:39,270 --> 00:37:36,160
started

1065
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:39,280
going viral yes anomaly the malibu

1066
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,079
anomaly

1067
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:42,400
yeah absolutely and if you look at it

1068
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:43,359
it's like wow

1069
00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,000
what is this it's got a flat top it's

1070
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:48,160
got what look like pillars or columns a

1071
00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:49,359
tunnel

1072
00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:51,280
there's some debunkers who are like no

1073
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:53,200
this is just an artifact from google

1074
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,480
imaging

1075
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:56,880
and and if you look at it yeah some of

1076
00:38:02,630 --> 00:37:59,520
it does look like a landslide but others

1077
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:02,640
should clearly show a tunnel so

1078
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,480
there's a lot of cherry picking and shoe

1079
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:06,560
fitting depending on which theory you're

1080
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:09,200
trying to promote yeah but that's not my

1081
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,320
style you know what

1082
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:12,960
i you look at all the evidence and then

1083
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:14,240
you come to a conclusion

1084
00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:17,680
so my assessment was already that there

1085
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:18,640
was a base

1086
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,440
in this area just based on the number of

1087
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:23,040
reports

1088
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:26,000
some involving not 10 or 20 objects i

1089
00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:27,359
mean the average sighting has

1090
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:30,800
like two objects right right some

1091
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:33,440
here have 10 or 20 30. and i have a

1092
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:34,320
couple that have

1093
00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,440
over 50. there are three cases

1094
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,440
involving over 100 objects coming up out

1095
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:41,200
of the water wow

1096
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:42,560
so when that i mean where are they

1097
00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:45,520
coming from what is it

1098
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,800
and so i started to have enough data

1099
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,160
points

1100
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:52,960
that pointed towards there being

1101
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:55,680
something down there

1102
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:58,240
and that's what when i started to you

1103
00:39:01,750 --> 00:38:59,200
know

1104
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,760
speculate on the possibility or

1105
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,920
probability of a base down there

1106
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:05,680
yeah i mean there are people that are

1107
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:07,119
outside interrupt there are people out

1108
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,480
there that also speculate that it

1109
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:10,079
if it's not a base it could well be a

1110
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,760
portal that you know

1111
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:13,359
is is kind of an entrance point for them

1112
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,920
coming to this to this earth to us

1113
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,160
you know or a tunnel from you know that

1114
00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:20,560
malibu anomaly does look like a tunnel

1115
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,960
yeah and i have been told from people

1116
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:24,960
within the military industrial complex

1117
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,480
what i would call whistleblowers

1118
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,480
right who i've been in touch with for a

1119
00:39:31,750 --> 00:39:29,760
while at least one guy

1120
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:31,760
who i absolutely trust had verified his

1121
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:33,440
employment

1122
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,640
he worked on a navy ship had top secret

1123
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:38,240
clearance

1124
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:39,839
and he's like you know about the tunnels

1125
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,440
right and i'm like well tell me

1126
00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:45,200
he said he said because i had heard

1127
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:46,560
about them and

1128
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:48,000
he said there was these tunnels that

1129
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:50,800
reached from get this area 51

1130
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:54,000
in nevada to edwards air force base in

1131
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,240
the high desert of southern california

1132
00:40:01,190 --> 00:39:59,440
to the santa catalina channel wow so

1133
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,200
maybe just maybe that's where these

1134
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:03,040
objects are coming from

1135
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:05,839
could be a portal could be a base at

1136
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:07,599
very least there's a parking lot down

1137
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:08,839
there

1138
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,359
sure i mean if this is the case and it's

1139
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,520
linked to things like area 51 and you

1140
00:40:17,990 --> 00:40:15,599
know with the tunnels does that mean as

1141
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,000
the government are working with these

1142
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:20,079
extraterrestrials or interdimensionals

1143
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,440
or whatever they're called

1144
00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,599
or does it mean some of this what we're

1145
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,520
seeing is genuinely man-made

1146
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:27,920
reverse-engineered is are there are you

1147
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,800
still working around

1148
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:31,119
multiple theories or have you kind of

1149
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,800
pushed them aside and you're focusing on

1150
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:34,079
one

1151
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,760
there's no doubt zero dot in my mind

1152
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,760
that some of the stuff we see is

1153
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:41,119
absolutely

1154
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:43,760
reverse engineered right i have enough

1155
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,560
personal

1156
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,560
whistleblower accounts to convince me

1157
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,400
and if you look at it

1158
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:50,000
from other researchers who kind of

1159
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:51,440
specialized in that

1160
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:55,040
evidence is extremely compelling

1161
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:56,480
and i've been told this over and over

1162
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,760
again that some of the stuff we're

1163
00:41:02,710 --> 00:40:58,960
seeing is ours

1164
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,720
but most know god no

1165
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:05,119
because if you look at these accounts

1166
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,560
and i've talked to

1167
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,640
a number of these military guys they

1168
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:10,400
don't know what it is

1169
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:13,599
and in this area there's a good 10 to 20

1170
00:41:17,829 --> 00:41:15,280
percent of the cases

1171
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:17,839
the objects are being chased by military

1172
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:19,119
jets

1173
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,520
uh there is military in this area but

1174
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,520
it's absolutely not our own for a number

1175
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:25,040
of reasons

1176
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,319
far too many of these objects uh

1177
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:30,880
because if we do have these craft we're

1178
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:32,839
not gonna be flying around hundreds of

1179
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:34,240
them

1180
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:36,319
and you're not gonna chase cars down the

1181
00:41:39,190 --> 00:41:38,400
street and you're not gonna put on

1182
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,200
displays

1183
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:40,960
for an audience and you're not gonna

1184
00:41:45,910 --> 00:41:43,680
hover over someone's home

1185
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:45,920
you know 15 feet above it and light up

1186
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:48,640
the entire interior

1187
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:49,920
and you're not going to land and take

1188
00:41:54,670 --> 00:41:52,400
them on board and have aliens be there

1189
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:54,680
you know we know this is

1190
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:56,000
extraterrestrial

1191
00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,079
hands down most of it uh

1192
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,440
so i'm that's my assessment i mean i

1193
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:05,280
i i'm not at the point where i can prove

1194
00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:07,680
it obviously no of course but it's good

1195
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,880
you know you've been in doing this for a

1196
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,880
long time a lot of what's being talked

1197
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:12,400
about that i've come across in this

1198
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:13,440
field at the moment is

1199
00:42:16,910 --> 00:42:14,960
the whether it's actually

1200
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,920
extraterrestrial or

1201
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:18,640
ultra-terrestrial whether it's and

1202
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:19,920
there's all these new phrases

1203
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:21,680
crypto-terrestrial something that's been

1204
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,240
here

1205
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:25,359
you

1206
00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:27,359
subscribe to any of those possibilities

1207
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:29,119
that it's not just a case that it's come

1208
00:42:33,430 --> 00:42:31,040
across you know light years of

1209
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:33,440
and you know at light speed and things

1210
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,640
like that

1211
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:36,400
well i i think it's clear some of these

1212
00:42:39,349 --> 00:42:37,920
are extraterrestrials in the classic

1213
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:39,359
sense

1214
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:42,480
uh because this is what the i'll call

1215
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:43,520
them et's

1216
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:46,160
just for convenience yeah um this is

1217
00:42:49,190 --> 00:42:47,119
what they've said

1218
00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,200
they have told experiencers this we are

1219
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:51,359
from orion we are from andromeda from

1220
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:53,440
cygnus the pleiades

1221
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:55,200
uh or we're from a place you don't know

1222
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:56,640
about yet

1223
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:00,160
uh i like you know ultra terrestrials

1224
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,160
you know interdimensionals

1225
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,920
the crypto terrestrials was an

1226
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,680
interesting idea yeah

1227
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,760
uh because we do know that these guys

1228
00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,119
have been around

1229
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,839
probably longer than we have and i think

1230
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,760
that's a safe assumption just based on

1231
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,200
the fact that we've got egyptian

1232
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:18,160
hieroglyphs that clearly show

1233
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:21,920
uh modern ufos we have petroglyphs we

1234
00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:23,520
have cave paintings

1235
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:26,640
we have medieval wood carvings

1236
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:28,720
i mean this appears in ancient writings

1237
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:32,160
the vinyanas of ancient india

1238
00:43:36,069 --> 00:43:34,720
so we know this goes back far before

1239
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:36,079
recorded history

1240
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:39,040
yeah and it might not be accurate to

1241
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,000
call some of these

1242
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,720
guys extraterrestrials because they

1243
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:44,079
could be you know a breakaway

1244
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:45,119
civilization

1245
00:43:48,309 --> 00:43:46,800
yeah we lived on earth and now we're

1246
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:48,319
coming back

1247
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:51,280
uh we cannot rule out that possibility

1248
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:52,480
but the idea

1249
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:57,040
of extraterrestrials as a simple concept

1250
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:00,960
is inescapable just i mean it really is

1251
00:44:07,430 --> 00:44:04,160
because here we are on a planet

1252
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:07,440
we know what we are and uh to think that

1253
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:09,119
we're unique

1254
00:44:14,309 --> 00:44:12,319
is unimaginable

1255
00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:14,319
absolutely i mean i think anybody that

1256
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,240
thinks that is kind of

1257
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:18,240
yeah i mean it's looking through you

1258
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:20,640
know like a narrow field

1259
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,319
and the fact is people when they see a

1260
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,240
ufo it usually starts

1261
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:26,880
way up high and it's coming from outer

1262
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:27,760
space

1263
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:29,520
and many people there are people who've

1264
00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:31,280
been taken to other planets i've heard

1265
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:33,440
this from first-hand experiencers

1266
00:44:38,870 --> 00:44:37,119
some very credible accounts wow um

1267
00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:38,880
you know like military witnesses have

1268
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:41,280
had this experience

1269
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:44,960
uh so i can tell you for sure

1270
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:47,440
i mean fairly certainly i should say

1271
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,319
yeah with

1272
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:51,280
a good amount of certainty that many of

1273
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,640
these are extraterrestrials in the

1274
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:54,160
classic sense

1275
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,920
and people talk about time travelers i'm

1276
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:57,599
like well yeah they can time travel

1277
00:45:01,750 --> 00:44:59,839
we've got good evidence of this

1278
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:01,760
interdimensionals well yeah they can

1279
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:04,160
travel interdimensionally

1280
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:05,440
but everything on earth is

1281
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:06,720
interdimensional we are our

1282
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:08,720
interdimensional beings

1283
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:10,720
we truly are if you look into this you

1284
00:45:15,430 --> 00:45:12,880
know there's ghostly phenomena

1285
00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:15,440
near death experiences astral travel

1286
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,920
yeah

1287
00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:18,000
other dimensions has been proven

1288
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:20,800
mathematically

1289
00:45:24,870 --> 00:45:23,520
everything is interdimensional so i'm

1290
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,880
not so sure it's

1291
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,720
useful to call these interdimensional

1292
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:28,319
beings

1293
00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:29,760
and really if something can move

1294
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:31,359
interdimensionally or

1295
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,440
time travel that does not preclude them

1296
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:35,280
from being extraterrestrial

1297
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:37,760
sure and ultra-terrestrial yeah

1298
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:40,960
ultra-terrestrial is a vague concept

1299
00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,280
and i mean has different meanings what

1300
00:45:48,470 --> 00:45:45,440
do you really mean by that

1301
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,480
there is a theory that's pretty

1302
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,960
popular i'd say this is the second most

1303
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,560
popular theory

1304
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,880
to explain the ufo phenomena

1305
00:46:00,390 --> 00:45:56,640
extraterrestrial is by far

1306
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,400
the most popular yeah uh and i think

1307
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:01,839
it's the one that best explains the

1308
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:02,480
evidence

1309
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:04,640
it really does from radar visual to

1310
00:46:08,069 --> 00:46:06,800
landing trays to implant removals to the

1311
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,079
crash retrievals

1312
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,400
i mean we have the craft think this

1313
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:12,400
through look at it if we have the craft

1314
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,319
in the bodies

1315
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,800
we know what this is i think it's not

1316
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:18,480
fair to call it a mystery

1317
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:21,440
yeah but there is a school of thought in

1318
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,960
this field among people who are very

1319
00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:24,720
well educated on this phenomenon that

1320
00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:25,920
this is a

1321
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:29,040
control system you know john

1322
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:32,560
john keel uh lauren coleman uh jerome

1323
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:33,359
clark

1324
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:36,240
jacques valle a lot of researchers have

1325
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:39,200
put forth this idea that perhaps

1326
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,960
these aren't extraterrestrials or at

1327
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:42,560
least some of them aren't and that's an

1328
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,280
intelligence that wears different masks

1329
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:46,640
and can manifest

1330
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:50,079
as you know ghosts yeah or

1331
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:53,119
or what have you spirits or it's

1332
00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,800
pretending to be extraterrestrials

1333
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:57,359
because that's a concept that we're

1334
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:01,599
you know at at this point in our society

1335
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:03,599
and i don't subscribe to it i mean i

1336
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,119
think that probably there is

1337
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:07,520
something to this because some

1338
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:09,680
encounters are very symbolic

1339
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:14,000
some encounters are so ungodly bizarre

1340
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:17,200
i mean they really are that you

1341
00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:19,520
could be extraterrestrial it doesn't

1342
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:20,559
make sense

1343
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:24,160
right so i'm not going to completely

1344
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:25,520
rule that out

1345
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,640
but it's a very anthropocentric theory

1346
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:30,480
and that almost always falls by the

1347
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:32,000
wayside we're not the center of the

1348
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:36,829
so some of it yeah some of it is

1349
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,000
probably

1350
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,800
not what it appears to be yeah no

1351
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,839
totally

1352
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,440
so i thought for the last sort of 10

1353
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,880
minutes or so we just talk about the

1354
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,160
current climate of

1355
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,640
the kind of ufo subject and what we've

1356
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:50,640
had or seen in the last

1357
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:53,040
you know year or so with the uap task

1358
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:54,640
force and the

1359
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,800
what i was would consider a quite hyped

1360
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:58,880
up report that kind of turned into

1361
00:48:02,470 --> 00:48:00,800
almost almost nothing i won't say

1362
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,480
completely nothing but

1363
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:04,480
how do you see the current climate of

1364
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:06,720
ufology and disclosure and things like

1365
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:07,520
that and

1366
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:09,359
what would you like to see in the in the

1367
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:10,720
coming years yeah

1368
00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:13,359
i see it as very volatile i think this

1369
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:15,359
is something that can change on a dime

1370
00:48:19,349 --> 00:48:18,319
yeah i think that disclosure will happen

1371
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:19,359
i really do

1372
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,280
i don't think we're gonna we should look

1373
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:23,680
to our governments to do it

1374
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:26,480
uh because just looking at this nine

1375
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,000
page report

1376
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:29,920
like nine pages really this is a big

1377
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:32,559
subject you give us nine pages of

1378
00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,680
layered lies uh it's pretty much the

1379
00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:37,119
same story they've been

1380
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:40,240
singing for 80 years yeah

1381
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:43,839
uh i'm of two minds about it

1382
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,760
i kind of knew it was going to be a bust

1383
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:47,040
i mean i knew it wasn't we weren't going

1384
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,640
to get a whole lot out of it

1385
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,880
yeah and we didn't and they said oh well

1386
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:52,079
one's a balloon

1387
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:53,599
you know like well great thanks for

1388
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,920
telling us that that's helpful

1389
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:58,240
and it could be radar clutter which in

1390
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:00,079
my mind is like shut up

1391
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,200
you know it's not and they're like well

1392
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:04,800
it could be a foreign government i'm

1393
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:07,680
like shut up you know it's not that

1394
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,720
like oh it could be u.s like wait aren't

1395
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:12,800
you the u.s

1396
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:16,000
um don't you know what you're doing

1397
00:49:20,230 --> 00:49:17,920
and they left open the possibility as a

1398
00:49:22,630 --> 00:49:20,240
footnote that this is extraterrestrials

1399
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:22,640
you can almost hear them like pulling

1400
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,240
their hair out as they say that word

1401
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:28,160
they're being dragged into this kicking

1402
00:49:32,069 --> 00:49:30,319
and screaming it's pretty clear

1403
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,079
that the only reason they're doing it is

1404
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:33,920
not for our benefit

1405
00:49:38,069 --> 00:49:36,640
it's for their benefit because they need

1406
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,079
to disclose to keep

1407
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:40,640
any measure of control on this people's

1408
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,040
perception of this phenomenon

1409
00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:44,480
because it's rolling out whether they

1410
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:46,319
want it to or not

1411
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:49,760
that cover-up has been a well i i c

1412
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:53,359
a good enough analogy is it's a dam

1413
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:54,480
you know when all the information is

1414
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:57,359
behind it and it sprung a thousand holes

1415
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:58,800
and they keep putting their fingers on

1416
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:01,599
it and now the dam is collapsing so this

1417
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:04,480
flood of information is sweeping over us

1418
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,839
and they're like okay we have to deal

1419
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:07,599
with the flood

1420
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:10,400
and that's why that's the driving force

1421
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:11,520
behind disclosure

1422
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,200
it's not because oh the people need to

1423
00:50:17,030 --> 00:50:15,119
know no

1424
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,040
they are and that's why they're studying

1425
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,960
quote sightings and not talking about

1426
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,680
roswell

1427
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:21,599
or landings or people who have been

1428
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,800
taken on board

1429
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:25,200
or aliens they're like we're studying

1430
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:26,000
sightings which

1431
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,680
has the least information to it

1432
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:31,359
i was really hoping they would release

1433
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,720
materials

1434
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:34,640
some good footage and they're not doing

1435
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:36,079
that i will

1436
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:38,880
i will not look to them for any truth on

1437
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,839
this subject i think it's a mistake

1438
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,520
but on the other hand i think it will

1439
00:50:47,510 --> 00:50:45,760
happen disclosure is going to happen

1440
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:47,520
because the cat's out of the bag

1441
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:50,240
ufos are not going away they're gonna

1442
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:51,680
put on a display that's

1443
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:54,480
absolutely incontrovertible evidence for

1444
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:57,119
the entire world at some point

1445
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:00,240
if the phoenix lights had happened

1446
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:03,280
in today's age or that wave over belgium

1447
00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:05,760
there was a wave in france in 1954 that

1448
00:51:11,910 --> 00:51:08,640
should have convinced the world wow

1449
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:11,920
every country has had their ufo wave

1450
00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,440
that an undeniable incident

1451
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:17,760
uh and we're at that point now where the

1452
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:19,119
et's i think are another

1453
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:20,800
driving force behind disclosure it's

1454
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:22,640
gonna happen we're going to have open

1455
00:51:27,109 --> 00:51:23,839
official contact

1456
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:27,119
there's going to be full disclosure i'm

1457
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:29,200
just not quite sure how it's going to

1458
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:31,119
roll out but i cannot see it going any

1459
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:32,559
other way

1460
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:34,559
man i mean that excites me to hear it

1461
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:36,079
from someone who's been studying it for

1462
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:38,240
so long that really does

1463
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:40,880
put me in a positive frame of mind and

1464
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:41,280
yeah

1465
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:43,760
it's good news ufos are good news for us

1466
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:44,640
trust me they

1467
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:47,280
really are they're not here to take over

1468
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:47,920
these guys are

1469
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:49,200
really advanced they've been here for

1470
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:51,119
millennia think it through if they

1471
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:52,880
wanted to take over would we be here

1472
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:55,200
right now no that's the thing i mean

1473
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:55,920
some people

1474
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:58,000
i've heard people say well their time is

1475
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,440
different from our time they could be

1476
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:01,440
waiting millennia just to make

1477
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:04,160
us think that they're uh you know

1478
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:04,880
harmless

1479
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:07,119
and then with that moment they strike

1480
00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:08,960
but i mean i don't subscribe to that

1481
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:09,440
it's

1482
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,760
personally i like to keep a lot of

1483
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:15,359
things on the table but

1484
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:16,559
you know speaking to people like

1485
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,319
yourself it puts me in that positive

1486
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:20,160
frame of mind where you know

1487
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:22,079
you you give a lot of um good

1488
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:23,760
information and

1489
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:26,559
research and that so yeah thank you so

1490
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,359
much

1491
00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:30,240
that's all i can really say hey my

1492
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,800
pleasure

1493
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,960
this is this is an important subject

1494
00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:34,960
yeah people people may be skeptical

1495
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:37,119
well much less now most people believe

1496
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:38,960
in people like ah it doesn't really

1497
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,359
affect me i'm like well yeah it does

1498
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:44,000
you just wait i mean if we have this

1499
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:45,520
technology

1500
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:48,240
if we have free energy this could change

1501
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,960
the world

1502
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:50,480
just think of the healing technology

1503
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:52,800
they have these guys are curing cancer

1504
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:55,839
we have that technology

1505
00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:58,640
and it's being suppressed it's it's a

1506
00:53:02,950 --> 00:52:59,760
travesty

1507
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:02,960
yeah this is a real crisis in term for

1508
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:03,760
humanity is

1509
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:05,280
who's not getting the truth and

1510
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:07,440
absolutely deserve it absolutely i mean

1511
00:53:10,150 --> 00:53:07,920
i agree

1512
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:10,160
free energy could solve the climate

1513
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:11,119
issue the

1514
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,240
fuel problem the the hunger famine

1515
00:53:18,549 --> 00:53:16,400
exactly that's exactly my point the

1516
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,559
environmental crisis the energy crisis

1517
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,800
and the economic crisis all of which are

1518
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:22,400
largely manufactured

1519
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:26,640
yeah exactly they don't need to be here

1520
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:30,079
no they don't um let's hope i really

1521
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,960
hope

1522
00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:32,880
that we get something in especially in

1523
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:34,880
our lifetime but if not for our children

1524
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:36,960
you know i've got a young daughter and

1525
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,400
i hope that she gets to see a better

1526
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,400
world possibly we'll see

1527
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:43,200
but uh yeah i'm entirely hopeful i'm

1528
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:44,559
very hopeful i think we're gonna go

1529
00:53:47,190 --> 00:53:44,880
through

1530
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:47,200
some rough times i think we have to to

1531
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:47,920
to come out

1532
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,720
brighter and stronger and more focused i

1533
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:52,240
think that is

1534
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:54,079
what humans have done for generations

1535
00:53:58,470 --> 00:53:56,319
decades millennia in fact so

1536
00:54:00,069 --> 00:53:58,480
we're in rough times right now hopefully

1537
00:54:01,190 --> 00:54:00,079
it doesn't get too much worse but i

1538
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:01,200
i think we're going to have some rough

1539
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:04,079
times before you know

1540
00:54:08,230 --> 00:54:06,240
people get tired of it let's come

1541
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:08,240
together let's stop the wars

1542
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:11,440
you know peace on earth it's not hard

1543
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,480
i agree and let's hope that that happens

1544
00:54:17,589 --> 00:54:15,920
maybe with the help of some

1545
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:17,599
extraterrestrial friends

1546
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,760
but listen preston thank you so much for

1547
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:20,640
joining me

1548
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:23,440
and i hope we can talk again in the

1549
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,000
future

1550
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,400
as this story just continues to develop

1551
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:28,240
um it's been an honor to speak to you i

1552
00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,920
appreciate everything you've been doing

1553
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,520
since i've been aware of this subject

1554
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,599
and yourself um and i know a lot of

1555
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,119
people watching live right now

1556
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:36,880
are really appreciative of of your work

1557
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:38,960
as well so thank you so much

1558
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,880
hey my pleasure thanks for having me on

1559
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:43,119
no problem take care and i'll speak soon

1560
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:48,710
guys that was incredible thank you so

1561
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:50,720
much for everyone that joined me live

1562
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:53,680
um i hope you'll join me again i think

1563
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,799
tomorrow

1564
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,720
but um yeah i've got my premiere

1565
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:58,400
tomorrow night with ross coulthard

1566
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:01,040
but guys subscribe to the channel if you